Bug 11654 - eliminate internal sender accounts for outgoing emails
Summary: eliminate internal sender accounts for outgoing emails
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Infrastructure
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Mail & Mailing Lists (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: unspecified Unspecified
: - Unknown - Minor Usability
Assignee: Michael Tremer
QA Contact: Peter Müller
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Blocks: DMARCREJECT
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Reported: 2018-03-01 20:03 UTC by Peter Müller
Modified: 2018-03-15 21:21 UTC (History)
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Description Peter Müller 2018-03-01 20:03:22 UTC
Although things have improved since, some mails are still coming from internal domain names such as "web01.ipfire.org" or have internal sender account names such as "nginx@web01.ipfire.org" (look at yesterdays Yahoo DMARC report for example).

We need to eliminate them in order to run a DMARC reject policy.
Comment 1 Michael Tremer 2018-03-01 21:15:19 UTC
From which application are they coming from? The forum and wiki have been updated.

They could either be old emails in the queue.
Comment 2 Peter Müller 2018-03-01 21:16:49 UTC
(In reply to Michael Tremer from comment #1)
> From which application are they coming from? The forum and wiki have been
> updated.
> 
> They could either be old emails in the queue.
Possible, yes. One example is:

Mär 01 20:15:47 mail01.i.ipfire.org postfix/smtpd[3434]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[172.28.1.107]: 450 4.1.2 <ackerley20@cheaterboy.com>: Recipient address rejected: Domain not found; from=<nginx@web01.ipfire.org> to=<ackerley20@cheaterboy.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<web01.ipfire.org>
Comment 3 Michael Tremer 2018-03-01 21:18:45 UTC
There have been 53 emails like that in the queue on the web server.

I dropped them all and we should see if any are coming back. Cannot really
explain to myself why some of them came through after a while.
Comment 4 Peter Müller 2018-03-01 21:26:37 UTC
(In reply to Michael Tremer from comment #3)
> There have been 53 emails like that in the queue on the web server.
> 
> I dropped them all and we should see if any are coming back. Cannot really
> explain to myself why some of them came through after a while.
This was another one:

Mär 01 20:25:21 mail01.i.ipfire.org amavis[3902]: (03902-03) Passed CLEAN {AcceptedInternal}, AM.PDP-SOCK/MYNETS LOCAL [172.28.1.107] <nginx@web01.ipfire.org> -> <[redacted]@gmail.com>, Queue-ID: 0ABA8111C4EA, Message-ID: <20180301202519.9BE0C644B9@web01.ipfire.org>, mail_id: hWte8fnGm8FH, Hits: -1.098, size: 3022, 875 ms

There still seems to an application which is not covered...
Comment 5 Michael Tremer 2018-03-01 21:40:08 UTC
phpBB is fucking bullshit software.

So the test email function is fine:

> Mar 01 21:37:57 web01.ipfire.org postfix/pickup[32388]: 3A35E644DE: uid=997 from=<no-reply@ipfire.org>
> Mar 01 21:37:57 web01.ipfire.org postfix/cleanup[321]: 3A35E644DE: message-id=<0a0f48f8e456ed888e5eca0b74b6e315@forum.ipfire.org>
> Mar 01 21:37:57 web01.ipfire.org postfix/qmgr[18843]: 3A35E644DE: from=<no-reply@ipfire.org>, size=1209, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
> Mar 01 21:37:58 web01.ipfire.org postfix/smtp[325]: 3A35E644DE: to=<michael.tremer@ipfire.org>, relay=relay.i.ipfire.org[172.28.1.200]:25, delay=1.2, delays=0.23/0.01/0.01/0.99, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0
> Mar 01 21:37:58 web01.ipfire.org postfix/qmgr[18843]: 3A35E644DE: removed

But *actual* emails are coming from somewhere else. Only god knows why this is. I will have a look where else I can change this...
Comment 6 Michael Tremer 2018-03-01 21:45:28 UTC
I set this in php.ini now:

> mail.force_extra_parameters = -fno-reply@ipfire.org
Comment 7 Peter Müller 2018-03-03 14:15:20 UTC
Seems like most of the legitimate outgoing mail is DKIM signed now, but there are still some exceptions. Maybe old queued messages, we'll wait a few days here.

@Michael: Looks like somebody in China is sending spoofed ipfire.org-mails: https://dmarc-reports.ipfire.org/dmarc-reports/?report=123&hostlookup=1&sortorder=1&p=2018-03#rpt123
Comment 8 Michael Tremer 2018-03-03 19:05:27 UTC
Comment # 7 on bug 11654 from Peter Müller
> @Michael: Looks like somebody in China is sending spoofed ipfire.org-mails:
> https://dmarc-reports.ipfire.org/dmarc-reports/?report=123&hostlookup=1&sortorder=1&p=2018-03#rpt123

Yeah, I have seen those. They are in there every day.

But what what is that stuff coming from apm.com?
Comment 9 Peter Müller 2018-03-11 21:32:46 UTC
According to the DMARC reports, this is fixed now. Some mails are still sent without DKIM singature, but that is another problem, and I will take care about this.
Comment 10 Michael Tremer 2018-03-15 21:21:02 UTC
Actually not really, since loads of systems send their internal email
with the hostname as domain name. Those usually don't go to external
mail servers, but they could. Do we care about that?